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Health and Wellness with No BS | Ari Gronich


S02E39

[00:00:00] David Dowlen: Are you tired of standing still? Do you feel like you are losing more ground than you're gaining and your health and your fitness and just the general way you feel about your life? 75% of Americans think that their diet is healthy. Despite a growing obesity rate, 42.4% only 22.5% of Americans exercise.

[00:00:21] Now, all this adds up to a lot of health issues that could be absolutely avoided and are completely preventable today. My special guest is a performance therapist that has worked with celebrities, highest level athletes, medalist, gold medalist, and more guys. My name is Brent, and this is the foul man podcast your home for all things, man, husband and father.

[00:00:43] And let's get into it. Be better tomorrow because of what you do today. Guys walk on the podcast today. I have Ari Granich today and he is joining us to help you take charge of your health and take some of the mystery out of all of this, because you can get lost in a sea of all. About health and wellness.

[00:01:01] So are you welcome to the podcast today?

[00:01:04] Ari Gronich: Awesome. Thank you for having me, Brent. I appreciate it.

[00:01:07] David Dowlen: Now, Ari, you're an author, a trainer, a sports therapist. I saw you have your own Nazism certification. Yes. People can get that. That's incredible. I I'm a bit of a fitness, enthusiasm enthusiast, so I recognize Nazism and, uh, they're an incredible group as far as their certifications.

[00:01:27] So that's amazing. And you're a rehab specialist. You work with people rehabbing injuries, uh, to the elite level athletes, right?

[00:01:37] Ari Gronich: Right. Yeah. So I spent 27 years basically taking, um, injured athletes from injuries to gold medals, world championships, uh, working with a list, you know, actors and actresses, helping them on set with whatever they roll.

[00:01:52] They needed to play. Basically the idea was getting somebody from their beginning. Point, which typically was at some level of injury to where they wanted to go, which at some level was competition and win. Right. That's kind of what I specialized in for 27 years is helping with performance.

[00:02:14] David Dowlen: All right. Now I could go on and on.

[00:02:17] Cause I read through all of your accolades and, uh, I'm a crappy podcast host. I don't do that because most people don't understand what any of those things are. So what I'd love for you to do is tell our audience today, who is Ari Granich? What do they need to know about you today?

[00:02:34] Ari Gronich: Yeah, so today, so today I'm 27 years as a sports and injury therapist, uh, functional medicine consultants.

[00:02:43] So 27 years in my field, I'm also a dad of a seven year old stepfather to two 20 year olds. I am a consultant. I'm a podcaster, I'm a friend. So yeah, I'm all kinds of things.

[00:03:02] David Dowlen: And you're also, as you said, a podcast host of the, create a new tomorrow podcasts, you want to tell us a little bit about what your podcast is about.

[00:03:13] Ari Gronich: Yeah. How do we create a new tomorrow today? How do we activate our vision for a better world? What are the steps that it's going to take to get there? What are the tips and tricks? What are the things that are stopping us in the barriers and break that are stopping us from doing the things that we know are in our own?

[00:03:30] Self-interest, that's what the show's about.

[00:03:35] David Dowlen: And that is a lot of things. Let's face. It we're our own worst enemies. Most of the time the numbers are appalling when it comes to general health. And now I I'm equal opportunity. Men and women both make bad choices, but why do you think. That we all struggle with living healthier lives.

[00:03:58] Ari Gronich: Um, well, okay, so you want to go down to the macro level or the micro level, because there's so many different ways I can, I could approach that subject from, we're not taught it. Our, our, you know, world is not built for it anymore. It used to be, it's not anymore. We're built for cars. We're built for taking transportation versus walking versus, you know, actively riding a bicycle somewhere.

[00:04:24] Um, so our, our societies have shifted even in the, just the, the 40 years since I was a kid where I could ride my bicycle everywhere. And anywhere at age 5, 6, 7, all my parents said was come home before dark. Right. And nowadays, like, I wouldn't let my kid do that my seven year old do that because there's so many possibilities of possibility out there.

[00:04:49] Right. So. Our world has shifted from a very, doing active society to a very sedentary lifestyle. And therefore we need things like gyms to go to because we're not doing things in life naturally to get healthy. Um, so yeah, there's multi-facets to all of this, I could go through why we're being poisoned and why our food and water is making us inflamed and sick and nervous and cancerous and all those things.

[00:05:22] So we could go,

[00:05:23] David Dowlen: oh no, you know what, that, that's all your topic as far as I'm concerned. Um, I am not a, you'll not find that I am a fan of the modern healthcare system. Uh, I try and balance my life somewhat between healthier choices, which I don't always see that because I like ice cream. Um, and you know, just some common sense.

[00:05:48] Plus I'll look into like natural remedies and stuff like that. Uh, because I, I just, I, I don't believe in the way the higher health care system is set up all the pills, all the chemicals, all the drugs they want to push. I'm not sure that our systems were made for that.

[00:06:06] Ari Gronich: So they weren't. So, so let's just look at it this way.

[00:06:10] So all medicine, all drugs, all things are poison, right? So either we're killing the bad stuff and leaving our good cells somehow, or we're killing the bad stuff and killing our good cells somehow, most likely that's the, that's the case. Cause it's poison. That's what, that's what a drug is. That's what medicine is in general.

[00:06:31] It's designed to kill things, not designed to build things up. And so food nutrition, those are things that are designed to build. Things up. So if all you're doing is trying to kill stuff, right? Unnaturally B via a drug via something that you're putting into your system, that's, you know, a drug to kill you, kill something, then you're not doing the natural thing, which is feeding your body, the stuff that allows your body to do its own natural killing of stuff.

[00:07:08] That's invading it. Right. And so we we've, we've kind of like taken the cart before the horse, you know, we're like, we're, we're, we're literally, I V dripping water down the horses throat versus taking them even to the river versus teaching the re you know, the horse, how to, how to swim. So we've, we've kinda done a bass ackwards thing and decided that nobody is actually capable of doing anything themselves.

[00:07:36] So we must do it for them.

[00:07:39] David Dowlen: Well, you know, we're an instant gratification society. That's why we have the nonsense five minute abs all that crap. That's why this stuff sells on TV and you all, everybody, everybody is smart enough to know that's a stupid idea that doesn't actually work, but yet people drop how, I mean, it's a billion dollar industry for instant fixes, right?

[00:08:02] Melt that body fat off drink our nasty concoction three times a day at, you know, half your life savings and you will be skinny and beautiful.

[00:08:14] Ari Gronich: Right? Well, so we just look at the results, right? How's that working out for us? Look at the numbers. Look at the results. What did you say? 42, something percent OB currently, right?

[00:08:28] 22 point something percent of people work out. I mean, we look at the results. Is the society living and the way we imagined it to be, I mean, I could speak for me, but I was a kid and I was watching the Jetsons and we've already passed the age of the Jetsons. So it hasn't looked the way that we envisioned it to be.

[00:08:54] Right. I look at the world, I go, okay. So why did we continue to build the fifties suburbs when we were building new construction versus building two thousands, 2020s and beyond right. Making our products more eco-friendly more modular so we can shift them out and change them at well, you know, like Legos.

[00:09:19] I mean, these are things that allow us to move with technology faster versus be stuck in the past. So why is it that we're making decisions for our health. That lead us down a path where we're not going to be able to do anything, but the sedentary making phone calls where we don't even have to pick up the phone and work, cause it'll be embedded in our skulls.

[00:09:42] And we just ordered delivery and sit on our virtual reality. And you know, eventually that kind of looks like the matrix. Doesn't it?

[00:09:52] David Dowlen: Uh, I laugh about that all the time, man. It's like, oh look, you're now part of the simulation. I mean, when was the last time I was, we were talking about the doctors trying to think when's the last time the doctor tried to give me anything to put in my mouth.

[00:10:07] There was actually beneficial, right? It's antibiotics, like you said, and that kills indiscriminately. I will not take those most. Right. It's painkillers and antidepressants. Right? Those are, those are what people try and shove down your throat all the

[00:10:25] Ari Gronich: time. Yeah. That, uh, you know, I mean the biggest anti-cholesterol medication Lipitor is the number one prescribed medication on the planet, leopard tour, uh, world health organization.

[00:10:37] I think it was in 2000. And I don't know, it was a long time ago, had 0% correlation between, uh, women and heart disease and cholesterol, uh, you know, like zero correlation, but Lipitor cholesterol, medication number one thing yet. We'll feed everybody sea salt, right? Iodized salt on, on every table in America.

[00:11:01] And restaurants is iodized salt. Oh yeah. Cholesterol. I'll just give you a little, a little, uh, your audience, a little heads up. Okay. Table salt is about 30 something percent. Glass silica. Okay. Glass glasses sharp. When you eat glass, it cuts things like your arteries. Okay. And when your arteries get cut by this glass that you're eating, all of a sudden your cholesterol goes in there and it says I'm going to repair this area because that's what cholesterol does it.

[00:11:37] Repairs cuts inside your body. So it goes in there to repair the cuts. Now you keep eating that salt and you keep cutting those arteries. The cholesterol is going to build up in those areas. Okay? So here's the key. Stop eating this, this table, salt, stop eating the table. Salt, your stop, eating the glass.

[00:11:59] That's cutting your arteries. That's causing your cholesterol to want to come and fix the area there on the other side. Type three diabetes. They're calling it, which is Alzheimer's and dementia. That's plaque in your brain cholesterol in your brain, going over to repair inflammatory responses that are in your brain.

[00:12:24] So if your brain is inflamed, because you're doing something or eating something, that's breaking the blood-brain barrier, causing inflammation of your head, losing focus, losing all those things. Now, all of a sudden flack comes there to protect your brain. Yes, you're going to lose some memory. So what do you do if you're having dementia, you stop eating the sugars, you stop eating the things that are breaking, that blood-brain barrier causing inflammation of your brain.

[00:12:52] And then you're going to stop the, the cry of dementia and the pull of it going on into the feature. So those are two really big things that doctors do. A lot of prescribing for diabetes eventually becomes dementia and Alzheimer's, and. Cholesterol, those things are God, I wish I could go on Ignacio.

[00:13:19] David Dowlen: Here's an important question for me. Cause I'm a salt guy. I love salt. So is it specifically like table salt, ares, like the, all the fancy pink sea salts and crap like that they come up with now? Is that any better? Yeah. So,

[00:13:33] Ari Gronich: so Himalayan salt. Is that pink? Salt? The Himalayan salt. Yeah, I have that. Okay. So that is actual rock.

[00:13:44] It's not like glass in there, you know, they're not, it's just, the rock is actual salt, crystal salt crystal. Okay. So, um, I believe Celtic Cecil. Um, some of the sea salt, even nowadays has been so over manufactured, some of the Celtic sea salts are good. Um, there's like celery salts, there's, uh, coconut aminos, which are really good.

[00:14:08] And those have a salty kind of kick to them. So there's other alternatives and things that you can do in order to get your salt craving, but the iodized table salt that's got mostly, you know, are 30 something percent silica.

[00:14:26] David Dowlen: Oh my goodness. I won't say the name of the little girl with the umbrella, but breaking my heart, man.

[00:14:34] I, yeah, I, I, I dunno if I learned it from my grandmother, man, she salted the crap out of everything, but she lived with us up until I was in my twenties when she passed away. So I,

[00:14:45] Ari Gronich: well, and just think about it this way. As, as you get older, your taste buds go, so you have to add more salt. So if you're eating a grandmother's dose of.

[00:14:53] At a, at an age where your taste buds are still developing and you got a lot of repair work to do in those tastes buds. Right? A lot of not eating of things. Like I can't drink a soda even with like, if I fill that much of it with water and that much of it was soda. I can't drink the soda. It's too sweet.

[00:15:16] It can't do it. Right. Because I don't mind. Yeah. Even juices nowadays. I have to cut it with like 90% water just because it's so ultra sweet. I will

[00:15:28] David Dowlen: actually not generally feed my kids straight juice just because they dumped so much sugar into that at this point. Um, I work with a youth event that we call it.

[00:15:39] It's a church or youth rally. Right. It's a big church event and we have a couple of hundred kids from the region and it's called apple cider press. Cause it started on an old orchard where some kids brought their friends home from college. And they set up the old wooden cider presses and they press cider wall.

[00:15:59] His dad talked about God, right? And that, I mean, this is 40 years later. We're still doing this event with hundreds of kids, but we actually press fresh shied at cider. As part of the event, we have several orchardists who bring in apples for us. And once you've had like, actually fresh cider compared to apple to use, you're just like, and it's still super sweet, but at least it's the, the fruit, right.

[00:16:26] It's not like, oh, okay, here's the first juice now we're add things.

[00:16:30] Ari Gronich: Uh, so on that sweet level, let me, let me just say 50 years ago, the sweet level, the sugar content of that apple let's let's imagine we have a green apple in front of us. Okay. That was the sugar content of most sugar, sugar, sugary apples, 50 years ago.

[00:16:52] Right. So you'd actually have to have about 10 apples to equal one apples sugar now 50 years ago. Oh yeah, no, we have, honey, you'd have to have a, I think it's seven or eight oranges to equal one from the past. You have to have, uh, in, in like nutritive quality in broccoli, for instance, you'd have to have five servings of broccoli to equal one from 50 years ago.

[00:17:18] So it's almost impossible to eat our way healthy these days. We have to supplement because our food just doesn't have the nutrients available to it.


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[00:17:28] David Dowlen: I actually live in a massive farming area. That's uh, that is the big, other than what has been here the last 15 years, this is a farming community. We actually export more potatoes out of my county than Idaho does.

[00:17:44] Uh, some of the best asparagus you'll ever have actually comes out of this valley, but. All

[00:17:50] Ari Gronich: right. I want a pipeline shipment directly to Florida from you.

[00:17:54] David Dowlen: Well, well, we'll trade you across, get some good stuff coming out of Florida. We actually even have peaches here.

[00:18:00] Ari Gronich: Lorena it's locally grown and locally sprayed.

[00:18:06] David Dowlen: Yeah. Mass farming has a definitely messed with the quality of our food. And I mean, but that's, so that is our problem we're running into right. Is like you say, we almost can't eat our way out of it.

[00:18:17] Ari Gronich: Now. It's almost impossible with commercial farming to eat our way out of it. We have to go back to individual farming, community farming, uh, co-op farming where like, you know, in areas that it's not a big farm town where they start a hydroponic farm, that is a co-op for, you know, the neighborhood or whatever.

[00:18:39] I mean, there there's all kinds of solutions to. This problem of lack of nutrients, but we have to let the soil rest. We have to re flood the lands a little bit from high to low in order to get those lands that have been over agriculture allies to get back to a nutrient dense quality. Cause right now we've taken off the top soil of almost all pretty much farmland.

[00:19:05] And so the only thing we could do is really hydroponics, aquaponics, aeroponics, and start getting more modern methods of, uh, of agriculture going while doing that in a local way. Not a, a massive big manufacturing way. Yeah.

[00:19:23] David Dowlen: I, I couldn't, I can barely grow weeds, but I have learned a few things living out here in farmland and, uh, I I'm always amazed.

[00:19:31] Like they ha because they have to rotate crops on fields. Right. I knew, I didn't know anything about that. And I I'm, I'm a meat cutter guy. I w I was, uh, my first job was on an actual functioning cattle ranch. And so, you know, we grew hay for our cows, but that's about it. Right? All I did was move water gates.

[00:19:50] My, my boss did everything else, but Kevin out here watching these farmers are like, oh, we're growing this. And the next year I'm like, so how's that going? Oh, we don't grow that this year. We will grow this this year. And so that that's been explained to me some, but I know that's supplementing. That's doing what they can using one product to try and re and rich the soil a different way,

[00:20:12] Ari Gronich: rotating the land, rotating the soil, rotating the ingredients.

[00:20:16] You know, the other thing is like we, we got away for it. We started pesticide, ING, everything in big ag. And instead of what we used to do, farmers actually know this stuff like real farmers, they know this, there are plants that you can plant next to your crops that will stop the bugs, who would normally eat your crops from eating them.

[00:20:36] And so therefore you could kind of avoid. Like a massive amount of those pesticides just by planting the plants that the other insects go away from right near that. So there, there are so many ways to, to, uh, fix the system if people are willing to. So my question to people with the create a new tomorrow podcast is what are you willing to do?

[00:21:01] How are you willing to activate your vision for a better world? What questions are you asking yourself? That's going to move you forward in your life versus keep you stuck. And, uh, from what you and I were talking about earlier, you know, a lot of the listeners, you said, have weight issues, have health concerns.

[00:21:22] And it's really hard to be a human being on this planet, especially a father and a businessman and somebody who's a contributing member to the world. When you feel like shit all the time, right? I'm really difficult.


[00:21:38] David Dowlen: There there's a overwhelming, you know, everybody always said that, uh, the information age was going to be great.

[00:21:44] Right. And, and we were ignorant because there was a lack of resource knowledge, right? We didn't have knowledge of age available to us. I actually had a sweet, older lady from my church post on her Facebook feed. That same question is like, you know, the claim that we're ignorant because of a lack of knowledge has, has lost all ground.

[00:22:04] At this point, you know, there, there's never been a more advantageous time if you want to learn something new than there is right now, but now we've gone to the far swing on that. Right? So you go online and try and figure out, well, you know, we were talking about diets, right? Keto, diet payload. I carnivore diet, which diet do you choose?

[00:22:23] Because there's now a bizillion diets. Everybody's sewing a new one. And so, you know, Joe plumber down the street is, is looking and going well. I should probably do something about the weight and so that where, where do we go? We go to Google, right? Right.

[00:22:40] Ari Gronich: Because Dr. Google, Dr. Google sucks. So here's, uh, in functional medicine, we have a saying test don't guess test, test, test, don't guess.

[00:22:53] So we don't want to throw darts on a dark board. And so since everybody's different and we have new technology, like let's use Western medicine from what it's good at, which is new technology. So we could test your DNA. We can actually find out your, through your blood, what's going on in your, in your system, how much nutrients you have, how much you needing, what, which ones, you know, how you like it best absorbed, you know, like we can find out all kinds of information.

[00:23:21] Now, the problem is that the people who have been finding out this information are only incentivized to treat the information that. They're not incentivized to turn the information into an optimal reading, right. To say, okay, what is the best outcome for this person? And how can we get there? And what's the plan that we're going to implement in order to get there.

[00:23:49] Right. So we don't, we don't have that piece. And that's the piece that's missing in life. In general. It's stepping back from the world. That's coming at us so fast, right. Putting up like a little guard for a second and saying, okay, I'm going to breathe. And like, you're looking out on the world through an observing station and you're saying, okay, what?

[00:24:20] What's real, what's real. Okay. I'm this much overweight. I don't feel good. I have too much overwhelmed at Bubba. What's the facts, no emotional attachment to the facts. Just what's the facts. Where is it that I am next question. Where do I want to go? If I could have any having any, which way I want it. If, if the world just would mold itself like clay to my wishes and desires, how would I, what, what would that look like?

[00:24:59] What would it feel like as detailed, as like intricate as much emotional feel to it as possible? How's the wind look, what's the weather like w who's the person you're looking at all the details, right? Next

[00:25:19] what's in the way of these two things being in the same place. Where I'm am and where I want to be. What's what's in the way could be a whole bunch of actions that you need to take could be a whole bunch of fear and barriers and traumas and things that you have to break through. But it's very simple right there.

[00:25:46] There's no, there's not, not a lot of complexity tort to this, to this process. It's a very simple process. The only thing that makes this process, the process that the 99.9% of people complain about the 1% or 0.1% of people, right? There's one difference. And that is that the 0.1% or the 1% of those people act.

[00:26:23] Act reassess, keep acting, keep acting, keep acting. And the 99% keep planning. Keep wishing, keep wanting, keep waiting, keep hoping, keep desiring,

[00:26:43] David Dowlen: sadly and horribly. True guys. Hey, we're going to roll to our sponsor. Have you right back with Ari Granich today's episode is brought to you by manly Monday, our new live stream show happening every Monday on the fallible man, YouTube channel, come join us and be part of communities. We discuss all things, man, husband and father in real time.

[00:27:04] Also, you can find us everywhere at the fallible man and without fail guys, head over to our website, www.thefallibleman.com and you can find everything we do and everywhere we're at always www.thefalbaman.com. Be sure to check out manly Monday guys. And we're back with Ari Granich. Ari is an expert in so many things in sports nutrition that he is actually got a who's who client list, but we're not going to talk about that.

[00:27:38] His performance therapists and guys, we're getting really real about nutrition and many other things today. So if you miss the first part of the podcast, you need to go back and catch the rest of that. Are you brought up one of the things we have the ability to do that they haven't well, that we don't do, right?

[00:27:57] Is we have the ability to test, test, and test and find out what our bodies actually need and what we needed to fix in our. Um, are you familiar with sand efforting? Right. So may bodybuilder power lifter then pretty well in YouTube to apparently, um, one of the things I know he advocates for is doing regular blood tests to check.

[00:28:18] I know he had a case for like vitamin D levels and some other balances. Right. Is that a intelligent choice for the average person? Is that something that we should all start thinking about?

[00:28:31] Ari Gronich: Yeah, so, so here's the thing. Um, once you figure out where you are and where you want to go, right. That's going to determine the path to get there, right?

[00:28:44] So if let's say you want to be, um, a American ninja warrior, you got a different path than somebody who say, wants to be able to get out of their car. At the back of the parking lot and walk the entire way through the store without having to get on a cart. Okay. Very different path to those two destinations.

[00:29:12] And so the key with testing and questioning is that you want to get really, really clear on all the details of where somebody's at, regardless of who they are and what they want to do. Everybody has a starting point and an end point that they want. And once that end point has gotten that's their new starting point.

[00:29:32] So you kind of got to know that too, if we get there, what then? Right. So you're constantly getting people incentivized and ticked into this, this momentum versus this place of like all where I'm at is not, uh, you know, and then I'm not going to do because, uh, my emotional tie to it. So. I like to, to tell people like, it's not, it's not rote.

[00:30:03] It's, it's very, very individualized, you know, for you. I'm not gonna tell you if you don't want to be running a marathon to go out and run 10 miles a day.

[00:30:16] David Dowlen: Well, thank you for that.


[00:30:17] Ari Gronich: Okay. That's not what I'm going to do. I'm not going to tell you if, you know, if you want to be a sprinter to go out and run 10 miles a day, either.

[00:30:28] Right. Very different muscles have to make developed for those kinds of things. And so you want to have the testing so that you know exactly where you're going and what you're doing so that you're not making mistakes. Right. And by mistakes, I mean, taking time that you could be taking, getting progress done.

[00:30:51] Right. So I have a belief system that we always want progress. And that the slower we go, the faster we'll get there. It's the turtle and the Hare, the slower we go, the faster we'll get there. So if we want results and the results that we want is a strong foundation. And here's the results that I always want.

[00:31:11] If I, if I'm going to be really honest with you, I don't care about shape. I never have. I care about my body being my bitch. This is a, it's a very crass way of saying it. But if I say jump, I want my body to say how high I don't care. Anything else. I want it to function. When I tell it to function. If somebody is chasing me like a big ass tiger, I want to be able to run and go up a tree immediately and not have to worry about if my body's going to be able to handle that, or if I'm going to throw my back out.

[00:31:47] Okay. So I want my body to be my best. And it by saying it that way I go, okay. So what does that mean? I want to train it from the foundation up. Every single weakness that I could possibly find is the first place I go. The biggest weakest weaknesses is the first place you go to strengthen. Those are usually in the joints and the tendons and ligaments.

[00:32:16] That's the boring stuff. That's the stuff that takes so much just to get through one rep, cause you're doing it so low. So as to train all the muscle fibers and all the stabilizers and all the things that have to move, and you're getting those joints stronger because you're going slow and you're, you know, ah, very slow back the other way too.

[00:32:44] So,

[00:32:44] David Dowlen: you know, like tempo reps are evil,


[00:32:47] Ari Gronich: right? This is, this is like, this is the evil. Okay, but the evil, let's say you took one year of just doing evil and you started out with like at evil, you know, let's say 150 pounds can barely do a pull up after one year. How many pull-ups you think you got? If, if you were consistent, if you had a plan, right?

[00:33:16] I mean, that's just, all I'm saying is like it, you can drastically change the course of your life by barely doing anything every single day.

[00:33:28] David Dowlen: Are you pointing out that the difference between a lot of people in their successes, people who find success with stuff, act, act, act, act. I think you, you made a good point with a lot of people don't know what to do next.

[00:33:45] Right? What happens when you get to that first? Right. I I've run into a lot of people that, you know, they're like, oh, I'm going to achieve this goal. And then they do, and then it's like deer in headlights. Well, what's now

[00:34:02] Ari Gronich: what's what's and that's why I asked midway. Yeah. That's why I asked that question midway through.

[00:34:07] So if we get this goal, cause you know, I'm, I'm always planning on getting the goal, right? If we get this goal, then what? So like for instance, I was, I had somebody who came in, uh, he had a car accident and for three years was going to a chiropractor, had massive sciatica pain. Couldn't get rid of the sciatica pain.

[00:34:28] Finally, I convinced him to come see me. Two sessions, no more pain. Three sessions never came back. So I said, now what. Well, I used to be, I didn't expect this, the guy like this tall, you know, and his thirties, he's like, well, I used to be an extreme rollerblader. I would jump off second stories and bridges.


[00:34:54] And I shattered my ankle and I used to do all kinds of things like this. And I'd really like to train for American ninja warrior. Okay. Well, let's see, what do we need to do in order to make that happen? Is that possible? What's the timeframe that that would be possible. And is your timeframe enough? So like if I had an Olympic athlete, we had six months to get him from injury to competition.

[00:35:21] There was no window of, of error there. It was, we either get it or he's losing out on millions and millions of dollars on recognition on namesake, on all these kinds of things. Legacy. We cannot get this. There is no option for failure and my eyes. That's how I look at it. Like when I'm working with somebody, there is no option for failure.

[00:35:48] If there's no option for failure, then how do we make sure of that? What is the process to make sure of that? And so just think about it. If you went, if you went into your life like that, if you went into your life, your health, your nutrition, where we started this and said, there is no option for failure.

[00:36:07] By the time I am this age, I will be in this shape. I will have my body doing these things. And then you reverse engineer all the steps that it's going to take in order to get there. And then you just do the plan. The only key is the commitment. Then at that point is doing the thing you say you're going to do.

[00:36:27] And for that, you have to own shit. You have to own it.

[00:36:32] David Dowlen: Did you hear that, guys? We talk about all the time on this channel. You have to know your why. If you're going to get through and keep that. And you have to take extreme ownership. It's on you. You were the only one driving this. You're the only one who cares about you getting it done.

[00:36:48] And you are the only one who can make sure you see this through.

[00:36:53] Ari Gronich: And I'm going to say this too. That means that you have to own asking for fricking help because you owning it yourself means that you're asking for help from your friends, from your family, from your system of support, your not letting it be that you're doing this shit alone.

[00:37:15] You have to have the support of your other men, of your other family and friends in order to make it

[00:37:22] David Dowlen: real. I just wanted to point out, see people who are smarter than me say these same things, guys. It's not just me blowing smoke. Uh, I, uh, where are you based out of Florida? Is that what you said? Yeah, man, that's a shame.

[00:37:35] I got some back problems. I'd love to spend some time with you.

[00:37:40] Ari Gronich: I used to, I used to live in Portland. I was, uh, I was homeless in Portland, Oregon for a year when I was 18.

[00:37:49] David Dowlen: Not a bad place to be homeless in. Well back then, maybe other

[00:37:52] Ari Gronich: than the rain, you know, you find out when you sleep under a bridge, you have to sleep upside down because otherwise the water goes in your sleeping bag.


[00:38:41] Ari Gronich: Yeah, well, they've been, they've been duped. Well, you know, when it says all natural ingredients, oh,

[00:38:49] David Dowlen: that's scary.

[00:38:52] Ari Gronich: Natural sweetener,

[00:38:56] David Dowlen: right? Yeah. I, we have way too many chemicals sweeteners for that. So let me ask you this what, okay. I'll offhand just general guidelines. Okay. For Joe, the plumber down the street who doesn't know Jack and right now is asking Dr. Google and the university of Google for information, what is the first three steps that we can just take own right now, actionable items to start moving towards a healthier lifestyle for us.

[00:39:25] Ari Gronich: Right. So the very first thing is the most expensive thing you could ever do. Okay. Breathe really, really good. Okay. And often and consciously and with intention.

[00:39:48] So when you're angry, what do you need to do when you're stressed? What do you need to do when you're excited? What do you need to do you want to breathe in life? Right. Exhilaration, inspiration. It's all about breath. So when we're breathing in life, we literally are taking in nutrients. Funny fact, 80% of all fat loss happens in your expiration.

[00:40:27] You're breathing out. Turns out fat is a long chain of hydrogen and oxygen. And when you breathe out, that's where 80% of fat loss comes from. Not your sweat, not your pain, not your poop. So 80% of fat loss. So if you're breathing, you're weighing less. If you're breathing, you're breathing in light, you're breathing in life, you're being inspired.

[00:40:56] So that's number one, breathe more. Number two, also very expensive. These days drink lots and lots and lots of pure water. So what is pure water? Pure water is not the water out of the tap anymore. And pure water is not the water in the plastic bottles SU and that includes plastic bottles that say distilled water, because distilled water is devoid of everything, which means that as soon as it entered a plastic bottle, it leached plastic into the water.

[00:41:29] It's no longer distilled. So. Drink water. What is our body made of 70 plus percent water, water flushes, water cleans. Water has oxygen, water drives, nutrients, water, lubricates, water flushes inflammation away. Water helps with, uh, electrical system, which is what our body is nervous system. So if you want your body to be functioning at its peak, you must never be dehydrated.

[00:42:02] Most people walk around at some level of 50% or under dehydration, and they're not drinking water, they're drinking sodas and things that help dehydrated coffee helps dehydrate them further. So these are the, you know, like number one, number two, breathe, a lot of water and drink. A lot of air. Number three would be

[00:42:31] well. Wait more, no, don't rush into a plan. Don't rush into a fad diet or a fat of some sort. Wait more, be patient, take some tests, get some information, make decisions slower that are going to be more effective in the long run. Because if you continue to make decisions out of haste, you're going to continue to do the same thing you've done every other time.

[00:43:05] We've all done this, which is go two steps forward, five steps back, two steps forward, five steps back, five steps forward, two steps back. And we just play this yo-yo game because we have no plan because we are Willy nilly instead of testing all the so wait and plan, create, uh, an ideal plan that EDU. Can do, and that you have friends and family that are on board with to support you.

[00:43:35] So those are the three things for anybody cost a lot of money

[00:43:39] David Dowlen: don't they? They do. They're expensive. That last one's going to throw a lot of people for a loop, right? I mean, that, that is the antithesis of what we say about anything, right? Oh, start today. Start now, start, start, go. Just start. Get started.

[00:43:55] Right? That is the antithesis of everything we hear screamed at us, but the idea of slowing down and actually processing and observing and

[00:44:07] Ari Gronich: yeah, you got to, you got to understand why you're there to begin with what allowed you to get to that place. Right? What allowed you to get to a place where like, for me, I have a brain tumor and my hormones are completely out of whack.

[00:44:21] And so I've been treated for this brain tumor since I was seven years old. Mistreated misdiagnosed until I was 24, when they actually found the freaking brain tumor and then mistreated me and misdiagnosed and yada yada. Right. So I got into this business for a reason. I had a very specific reason and, you know, a few years ago I was 342 pounds.

[00:44:43] I had just gotten in a car accident. And I was like in a massive amount of pain. My family had just gone through whooping cough for like nine months. And I was like, I'm going to have surgery. I got to get better. I got to fix what's going on. Modern technology, modern testing, modern studies. They had just come out with really detailed genetic test that could tell you all the things going on in you.

[00:45:10] I took that test. I started doing cleanses and started doing fasts and things like that. And mostly AIP diet, which is auto-immune protocol or anti-inflammatory diet cuts out all the inflammation. It's like a beginning step for any nutrition protocol is you want to clean out anything that might cause inflammation.

[00:45:29] That's pretty cool. So we just clean out the inflammation. So I lost 140 frickin pounds being told by doctors my entire life that I would never lose weight and I would die from, from it because my body didn't produce the right core moans of chemicals and things in order to avoid putting on weight.


[00:45:49] Right. So I have to avoid a lot of things. I have to take certain things in order to make my body work properly, that I would have never found out had I not fricking gotten tested. Right. I could have assumed that it was just from the tumor and not assumed that it was all these other things. This. That I couldn't methalate properly.

[00:46:12] Like I wasn't producing glutathione, which is your detoxification hormone. Right. So I would never have known some of the things that I found out because I would, I would have guessed instead of tests and most doctors, unfortunately, that are not functional medicine or integrative doctors don't know how to test for all of the different things they're told by insurance companies that they can't test for all of the different things at once.

[00:46:39] Right? So it's not that much more money to get a more complete test, but that's a more appropriate thing. Then I had a supplement designed for me in Germany based on my genetics. So there was everything I needed, nothing I didn't need in it. So no fillers, no extras. It was tailor made for me. And then as back to your question, three to six months later, you get tested again, you find out, okay, where are we at now?

[00:47:13] Has what we've done worked. And then you go to the next one. You don't just keep taking the same thing for the rest of your life, because why? Because this is once it said that that, that was what to do once it said to do that, no, you got to retest. You got to reanalyze. You wouldn't do that for your business.

[00:47:30] Run a campaign once. And it doesn't, you know,

[00:47:33] David Dowlen: work. And I think too many people actually would,

[00:47:37] Ari Gronich: they would, but when, if you you're a good business person, right. You're gonna gonna to tweak you. It may, it may have only been that one little word in the content that threw it off. Right. And change that one little word at would have made millions, same thing in your body.

[00:47:59] One little tweak. Like if you're eating tomatoes and your body goes with tomatoes, cause they're a night shade. I mean, and you're Italian. I mean all about God, what to

[00:48:13] David Dowlen: do life is over. At that

[00:48:16] Ari Gronich: point, you decide, you make a decision either I'm going to eat this tomato, which I love. And then I'm going to do something else that will allow this tomato to digest properly.

[00:48:27] I'm going to take extra enzymes or extra things and nutrition to help it along. Or I'm just going to ignore it or I'm going to not take it. So you have choices with knowledge, right? But when the knowledge becomes overwhelming, like Dr. Google, instead of underwhelming, like doctor, you doctor me, right. I am the person that I'm studying instead of all of Google.

[00:48:55] Now the overwhelm becomes underwhelming and you could do it when it's the overwhelm of Dr. Google. You're just going to freaking do 20,000 things and not give them any of them. Right.

[00:49:04] David Dowlen: It's amazing when you start experimenting with your body, um, I've always done all my own training and unfortunately, my nutrition, which is my weak point for sure.

[00:49:14] But, you know, I've tried different kinds of diets over the years and stuff like that, but it was the most amazing thing, right? The only vegetable I ever liked growing up was peas. I loved English peas, right? It's the only thing my mom could get me to swallow happily. I can't eat him. I did was on a diet where I just, I, it was basically a reduction, dark diet start with down to real basic things.

[00:49:37] And once you got into it, right, I was on it for a couple of weeks and I started adding one thing at a time back in, right. I added piece. I was looking forward to it and all my goodness erected. Uh, and I thought, no, there's no way. So I waited a couple more days and I tried it one more time and it's like, whoa, I've eaten these my whole life.

[00:50:01] How, how is that messing with my body that badly? I had no idea that I had a problem and I don't know enough about us. Know whether I, my body just can't digest it. Or if there's an allergy or what, but I know without any official testing, because I took the time to eliminate some stuff.

[00:50:20] Ari Gronich: Right. You didn't, you didn't do the official numbers test, but you still did a, an experiment experiential test where you did an elimination, you isolated compounds, you did an elimination, and then you added back in and took note of data.

[00:50:36] Like you got changed with PS.

[00:50:40] David Dowlen: It's an, it's an amazing thing, but you don't even think about your body is so wonderfully complex. You don't even think about the things that could be. Damaging your body or could be interfering with your optimal health,

[00:50:53] Ari Gronich: right? That's why, you know, like broccoli, sometimes it's like deadly for people, but most people think that broccoli is good.

[00:51:00] The old diet. Right. But any builder's diet chicken and broccoli, chicken and broccoli, every meal, chicken and broccoli, chicken and broccoli, every single meal, chicken and broccoli, 10 times a day. Chicken and broccoli. That was the old bodybuilder. Oh, wait, minus the 10 eggs in the morning. Yeah. Yeah. And then chicken broccoli all day long.

[00:51:19] Right. And maybe you put in rice if you were trying to bulk.

[00:51:23] David Dowlen: Yeah. Yeah. There's only, that's the only in the bulk season.

[00:51:27] Ari Gronich: That's if it bulking instead of cut. So how would you know, this is why I love modern technology combined with ancient thinking. So if you take modern technology, modern world modern thing, And marry them with ancient ways of thinking.

[00:51:51] Now you can optimize the results of things, right. Versus, uh, what we've done, which is we've incentivized procedures versus incentivizing results. And so the more things you do, the more money you make, if you're a doctor and you do 10 procedures, you make more than if you fix somebody with one procedure, it's an incentive thing.

[00:52:13] All right. So we have to have like an x-ray before we get an MRI, even though an x-ray is going to tell us completely different information than an MRI will. And most of the time you don't need an x-ray for what an MRI will show you. Right. But we have to do it for insurance companies because we have to do one and then the other, we can't just do the one that we know is going to work.

[00:52:35] Right. That's an incentive issue in medicine and that's the biggest incentive. That's the biggest issue in medicine in general is the. If the incentive was that you get bonus pay for everybody that you get off of diabetic medication, because they're cured of diabetes,

[00:52:55] David Dowlen: we'd have a cure so fast,

[00:52:57] Ari Gronich: right?

[00:52:58] That's the incentive. Now, if you have incentive cancer patients not going through chemo, getting better through other means alternative means like juicing and, you know, greens and, you know, adding iodine and other things to the diet, right. That pays more than the surgery or then the chemo that's when we have a change, but you got to incentivize and pay for the things that you want to value.

[00:53:34] And right now what we incentivize and what we pay for are the things that are destroying us versus the things that are building. And that's what this show's

[00:53:44] David Dowlen: about more poison in the body, more poison. The body makes insurance companies very rich and pharmaceutical companies, very rich, healthy people.

[00:53:53] Don't pay bill.

[00:53:55] Ari Gronich: And again, take away the negative or positive take away the, the, whether that's a good or bad situation, whether it's evil or pop or not like take away all that, right. It's effective or ineffective. Is it effective or is it ineffective if it's effective, do it more if it's ineffective, do less of it and more of that.

[00:54:17] Right. And that's what I'm, that's what, that's the, that's the, uh, mindset of the ancients, right? Is we're going to do what's effective. We're going to help people heal. We're going to cure things. We're going to make things better that are off balance. They're going to get off balance. Now they need to get back on balance.

[00:54:36] It's just a matter of finding out where that balance point is, where that zero point. And that's what medicine has failed to do. It was designed to do that and it failed at its design because of the incentives that were created around it.

[00:54:53] David Dowlen: What do you say? Sorry, what do you say to people who say, well, it's too late, too far gone.

[00:55:01] I'm you know, I'm too old or I'm too fat or right. What are you say?

[00:55:07] Ari Gronich: Huh? Are you alive? Look, somebody asked me on another podcast once about like the, the falling off the wagon thing. There's no fucking wagon. You're alive until you're dead. You're on the wagon. Life is the lagging. Okay. Kick it off the wagon.

[00:55:29] So if you're going to be on the wagon, why don't you steer it? Why don't you learn how to direct the way. Why don't you make sure that you're taking as few bumpy roads as possible, you know? And eventually you take a nice bumpy road because of the adventure you want to be on. But that's, that's a difference in thought, right?

[00:55:53] It's just a difference in thought there is no wagon, so don't you're can you breathe? Okay. Well, the first thing I told you to do breathe, can you drink water? If you can't stand the taste of water, put a lemon in it, but can you drink the water? Okay. You know, can you slow down a little bit? That's the hard one for most people.

[00:56:14] Can you slow down a little bit?

[00:56:18] David Dowlen: That's really hard, right? Stays. Right. We live in such a fast paced society, any full confession. That's where I started drinking water. I hated water. I'd get the, just like lemons and just throw it in my audit, squeeze it and throw it in my water bottle over and over. That's the only way I would even.


[00:56:36] Now I drink several water bottles.

[00:56:39] Ari Gronich: Yeah. So I had a patient. I had a patient, she was 600 pounds, drink Coke all day long. Never had a glass of water for years, years, and years and years, not a glass of water. Couldn't drink water because she couldn't stand the taste flavor of water. Okay. We got her off of the Coke and drinking lemon water,

[00:57:08] 200 pounds like that. And S eight months, nine months. It's like, I mean, it was quick. I didn't do anything different, nothing changed, but replacing the water with the Coke or book is when Coke with water. That was the. Every cup can of Coke that much sugar. Yeah. So let's, let's go to a diabetic point of view, right?

[00:57:50] I believe that the amount of blood sugar, 80 to a hundred that's in the normal good blood range is approximately two tablespoons. So if you have two tablespoons with your coffee and then you have anything else, you've now screwed your days, sugar up for your blood, right. You've now caused a situation where you're going to have insulin resistance.

[00:58:25] You're going to get diabetes. You can have a. Any kind of issues from that inflammation and other, you know, other things from them. So how easy is it in this society to eat too much sugar? I mean, if you're eating anything, that's in the middle of a grocery store, anything that's in the middle of grocery store packaged you're over the sugar content and like one thing.

[00:59:01] So the question is, how do you, again, start what we talked about earlier in the show, the farming, right? But walking around the edges of the grocery store and eating actual whole foods, cooking your own meals, taking time out of your day, to like a Sunday to make meals for the rest of the week, or at least prep and plan them.

[00:59:24] Is there ways that you can make sure that you're sticking to them? I always, I always say, if you're trying to change your life, you really want to get your, why you said this before, but what is the purpose? Like if I'm, if I'm healthy, then, then what am I going to do with myself? Because I'll tell you something.

[00:59:50] I've had the experience of feeling healthy and the experience of not feeling healthy. And when I felt healthy right after I didn't feel healthy, I had a huge amount of time on my hands that I had no idea what to do with. And unfortunately you could find yourself if you have that situation falling back into an old pattern of doing the same thing that you did when you felt like crap, thereby recreating the situation that will make you feel like again.

[01:00:26] So. Got to figure out what you want to do with your time when you're feeling good.

[01:00:32] David Dowlen: I was interviewing an author and, uh, one of the things he had talked about in his book was changing some of his bad habits that he in his personal journey. And he said, you know, the secret to changing bad habits is you replace it with another habit that you have to do before you do that bad habit.

[01:00:51] And eventually you'll replace the bad habit with the one you were doing before it. And this, we can go away. You filled the space, you're not leaving a gap, which can cause problems like you're saying, right, but you've already forced yourself to start a new habit before you can do this bad habit for him.

[01:01:07] It was, he would meditate for 20 minutes before he could have his morning vodka. And he eventually broke himself of alcoholism because. He just got so into his meditation that he stopped feeling like he needed the drink afterwards to get his day started. I think it was vodka and red bull for breakfast every day or something, but he wasn't advocating for it, you know, fixing people with alcoholism, but he's like, you know, I, I put a healthy, better habit and I had to do it before I can move to this one.

[01:01:42] Right. Eventually it just, I didn't need this one anymore.

[01:01:46] Ari Gronich: So I'm going to go a different route. Okay. We all, we always hear, especially in men about egos being so horrible ego, the ego, the ego, ah, if not for the ego, I feel a little differently about it. I think the ego is good. It's designed to motivate you to be better than you were before.

[01:02:15] And so if you use it then. Where your commitment lies here and your ego drives your commitment up. You could get to new Heights. If you let your ego get in the way it drives your commitment down. Right? And so when it comes to old habits or addictions and new habits and addictions, it's not just replacing the thing.

[01:02:46] Like it's not replacing the cigarette with a carrot. Okay. It's what is it that you want to do? Who do you want to be? If I want to be a guy who's climbing mountains is smoking cigarettes at two packs a day associated with being able to climb massive mountains, right. And hiking and breathing deep. No. I can't do that because I have this over here that is stronger than my, than my addiction.

[01:03:25] Does that make sense? Is that it's a little different than just replacing one thing with another, right. It's saying, who do I want to be? And does that align with who I want to be just drinking vodka every single morning, align with how I want my day to be, what would it align with how I want my day to be meditation?

[01:03:45] Oh, good.

[01:03:46] David Dowlen: I think it's a difference in macro thinking in micro thinking though, you're looking at a very macro perspective, right? Who do I want to be? Do I want to be able to achieve this it's that goal lofty enough. You really have to find that why to, for that goal, right. Or you're not going to get there anyway.

[01:04:03] You're not going to have the ability to switch habits or anything like that. And I think that's the difference. I think he was just going with a micro perspective. We'll do the swap. That's something that's, that's me taking an action to do something. Right. And you're right. It is at a more macro level.

[01:04:21] You have to look at it for sure. And go bigger aspirations. Do I want to climb that mountain because sucking down two packs a day, is it going to do it? Cause I used to do that. Uh, scarily enough, I was in the military and it's amazing what we could do. So I can down two packs a day when I was in the military, it was kind of horrifying.

[01:04:39] I could run six miles every morning when no problem. And then I was grabbing a cigarette as soon as I finished. But, um, yeah, I think as a macro perspective versus micro perspective, you have to get granular and go, okay, what can I do? What's an action. Right? That's one of the things I talked about with men is, you know, you have to build your plan, right?

[01:05:04] Measurable steps, achievable steps. So how do I beat this now? How do I change this now? For a bigger perspective of who do I want to be? What do I want to achieve with my life? So I don't think they contradict each other. I think, uh,

[01:05:19] Ari Gronich: they don't contradict each other. It's just, again, it's versus just replacing when I've seen people replace, I've seen them go back.

[01:05:31] It's simple. I have seen them go back when they do something that drives them forward. Right. They don't go back typically to the old habit, the first time something like triggers their butt. Right. So that's where replace contradicts a little bit, because to me, in my experience, at least it's my personal truth.

[01:05:57] Right? What I've seen is that the very first moment that something like. They go back to that old.

[01:06:07] David Dowlen: No, and I would agree with that wholeheartedly. Uh, and that's where I tried replacing cigarettes many, many times in ineffectively. It wasn't until I actually had a why that was big enough to drive a change in my life.

[01:06:23] That, and then replacing helps dull the urge a little bit, but it wasn't because it was the, that was just help dull the urge. It was because my eyes were on something bigger. So yeah, I agree. I do disagree. I don't believe in personal truth. I think there are universal truth. People can go suck an egg. I don't care.

[01:06:43] There are universal truths to life. I don't care what reality you want to pretend you're in these days. I know that's very not PC culture, but

[01:06:54] Ari Gronich: I'm not about PC. I'm about effective, right? Right. Is PC effective. I, you know, is any of this cancel culture effective? Is anything. Either side of the parties are doing effective.

[01:07:07] No, it's completely ineffective. And in fact, beyond being completely ineffective, it's worse than that because it's counterproductive. It sets us back.

[01:07:19] David Dowlen: I think that's, uh, some of the things where, you know, when I was a kid, I'm 41, I was told to suck it up a lot and just do that. That's how it's going to be.

[01:07:30] That's how I don't care if you like it. That's how it is. You know, I I've heard people, I have a friend, I love him to death. I love him. He drinks, diet Snapple. And I mean, I see the difference. It makes it him when he actually has to go out without, for a couple of days, the difference in his personality, the difference in his temperament.

[01:07:51] And, you know, I've had so many people was like, well, In my diet. I hate that if it fits your macros crap in my diet, this is a no, it's not, that's still bad for you. I don't care if it fits your macros, that's still horrible for your body. No matter if you get inside your macro ranger, I can fill your macros with jelly beans.

[01:08:14] It still doesn't make it healthy.

[01:08:15] Ari Gronich: Yeah. I had a conversation with somebody actually. I got banned from his page for this because he posted a thing that said, like the calorie content and the macros for Nutella and the calorie content for avocado and avocado of course, is higher in fat and higher in calorie and whatever.

[01:08:32] And he, his, his point was the Nutella

was good sometimes. And I'm like, um, and what planet. Compared to the other. I said, I'm like, Hey, you know what, if you really liked to tele, you can make out of the avocado some, you know, get some Hazel nuts and get some rocket cow and stuff. You could make your own Nutella.

[01:08:57] Oh yeah. Real Monkfruit you got your own new Kelton, Nutella without it being horribly crappy ass for you. But I was like, I just, I couldn't get it. And then I went to a diet, uh, licensed. I had Titian and she said to my ex, when she was pregnant, drinking her diet Coke, she said, I like to eat my calories, not drink them.

[01:09:24] I'm like, so the fact that you had zero calories means that that's going to affect your blood sugar 10 times worse than sugar. And how does that make any sense? Right. How does that make any sense to your dietician? I don't get it. I just don't get it. I don't understand. Right. Some of the lack of logic, the common sense, the things, right?

[01:09:48] So you're asking about common sense in this stuff. It's simple wreath, deep, ate, less processed, packaged food, and more whole, you know, healthy food that has less chemicals in it, simple that all you want to do, maybe, you know, you stop breathing in the smog, but that's kind of hard. You know, you keep drinking, you know, don't drink the tap water who don't drink the tap water, filter your water.

[01:10:19] You know, I

[01:10:20] David Dowlen: have changed our filter a lot. We have a lot of crap in our water out here. It's horrible.

[01:10:24] Ari Gronich: I, I got a filter. Uh, I used to sell filters 28 years ago when I was 17, 18 years. And I used to go to Denny's and places like that. And I'd sit there with my testing kit and I'd test the water at the restaurant and everybody would look at me like I was crazy and I'd sell so many fricking filters.

[01:10:47] I doing that, but I'll tell you, they loved

[01:10:49] David Dowlen: you at the restaurant. I

[01:10:50] Ari Gronich: know, but I have a filter that filters every orifice, that leaks water in my house, putting my showers. Cause when I moved to Florida, I literally was allergic to the water. I would take a shower and I'd start sneezing. My eyes would start burning because they stick ammonia in here, along with the fluoride and along with the orient and all that.

[01:11:10] Well guess what that is. Chlorine brought to a steam base. You were in the military. What is that? Really? Toxic gas. Yeah, but it's, it's a very specific name. Mustard, gas. Chlorine brought to esteem base high amounts of chlorine beaches esteem must just what happens when you take a steamy hot shower and you're taking that and chlorine you're literally gassing yourself at

[01:11:40] David Dowlen: yeah.

[01:11:40] I'm, I'm not a huge fan. I love hot tubs, but I I've been in some hot tubs. I walked over by them and just turned around and walked away. There is so much chlorine in that, man. You're just sucking down, poison, breathing that stuff. I have sinus problems real bad. So, you know, hot, steamy showers have been a go-to for my whole life to try and breathe better.

[01:12:01] But yeah, I I've walked around some hot tubs. It's like, Nope, Nope. That's that's just toxic. I actually lived in the Florida panhandle for awhile. So I, my, my first couple of weeks of showers and Florida were interesting. My body started to adjusting to it.

[01:12:18] Ari Gronich: Unfortunate. Because if he didn't adjust, like I don't adjust, I just have to suffer.


[01:12:25] I at least I recognize it. Right. Most people adjust and then they forget that they're being slowly poisoned.

[01:12:34] David Dowlen: Well, I was in the military at a specialized training, so my life sucked. Anyway, one more thing. Didn't seem to bother me that bad.

[01:12:47] Ari Gronich: I

[01:12:47] David Dowlen: understand that guys, if you are not learning something, you are not listening to this conversation.

[01:12:53] Uh, Ari, thank you for joining us on the podcast today. Thank you for taking the time to be with this guys. It's never too late to start and it's so simple to start. Remember what Ari said, Breathe, Drink water and slow down and

be better tomorrow because of what you do today.


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